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		<title>By: jabkap</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-5712</link>
		<dc:creator>jabkap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too agree with the honourable Dokcho Gothrip. A gelong is a part of Gayduen to whom we refuge for the present and the future life as well. So they have to have good care and learning to their extreme high level. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too agree with the honourable Dokcho Gothrip. A gelong is a part of Gayduen to whom we refuge for the present and the future life as well. So they have to have good care and learning to their extreme high level. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: jabkap</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-5711</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I too agree with HE the Dogcho Gothrip.
Gelongs are the ones who afterwards bless the country and her inhabitants.Therefore we should respect them care for them and educate them at the highist level. Because a Gelong is a part of Gedoen to whom we refuge for the present life and the next life as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I too agree with HE the Dogcho Gothrip.<br />
Gelongs are the ones who afterwards bless the country and her inhabitants.Therefore we should respect them care for them and educate them at the highist level. Because a Gelong is a part of Gedoen to whom we refuge for the present life and the next life as well.</p>
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		<title>By: yeshey</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-4156</link>
		<dc:creator>yeshey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ur excellency.i do agree that buddhist country shouldn&#039;t sideline the beholder of our religion. As of my knowledge our gelongs are most previlaged citizens of our country. they dont have to bother about accomodation and fooding, basic necessity of life. One of my cousin told me that he is not able to work as an attendant and want to join monk body. He prefers to be a gelong not because of his faith in religion but freedom. today we see our sacrad red colour flying to all avenues. they do have the update of latest movies. Here m not trying to blame them but our system. they are the upholders of our faith and should&#039;nt afford to shake with metallic sounds. Now providing lot more facilities would make them more vulnurable to worldliness. Here i donnot mean to all monastic personnals but to some. Firstly the system has to be corrected.
thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ur excellency.i do agree that buddhist country shouldn&#8217;t sideline the beholder of our religion. As of my knowledge our gelongs are most previlaged citizens of our country. they dont have to bother about accomodation and fooding, basic necessity of life. One of my cousin told me that he is not able to work as an attendant and want to join monk body. He prefers to be a gelong not because of his faith in religion but freedom. today we see our sacrad red colour flying to all avenues. they do have the update of latest movies. Here m not trying to blame them but our system. they are the upholders of our faith and should&#8217;nt afford to shake with metallic sounds. Now providing lot more facilities would make them more vulnurable to worldliness. Here i donnot mean to all monastic personnals but to some. Firstly the system has to be corrected.<br />
thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you pdrukpa. It certainly did bring peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you pdrukpa. It certainly did bring peace.</p>
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		<title>By: pdrukpa</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>pdrukpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the confused Anonymous, who Posted on January 24, regarding the Bhutanese media:&lt;br/&gt;Please note that Bhutanitmes.com is different from Bhutantimes.bt, the latter being the authentic site.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bhutantimes.com is a mere news aggregator, something any web savvy  individual can create. I hope this brings you peace. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Try www.bhutantimes.bt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the confused Anonymous, who Posted on January 24, regarding the Bhutanese media:<br />Please note that Bhutanitmes.com is different from Bhutantimes.bt, the latter being the authentic site.</p>
<p>Bhutantimes.com is a mere news aggregator, something any web savvy  individual can create. I hope this brings you peace. </p>
<p>Try <a href="http://www.bhutantimes.bt" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhutantimes.bt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your excellency,I know this is completely off topic,but I wanted to express here my distaste and concern over how BICMA fined BBS for bringing in an open panel discussion regarding the prepaid taxi service system during which one of the participatents supposedly made some personal attacks on a minister. If this is the case then BICMA should  fine Bhutantimes too because you can see lots of personal attacks and other anti-Bhutan articles freely allowed by Bhutantimes in their website. I don&#039;t understand why Bhutantime is hell bent on presenting Bhutan the worst way possible to the outside world. One time I heard that Sen. &lt;br/&gt;Mccain was visiting Bhutan, since it&#039;s such an historic visit by one of the important political figures from America, I thought his visit would be featured in front page in all &lt;br/&gt;online Bhutanese news medias-but I was sad and disappointed to notice that all I could see on Bhutantimes was news on refugees,refugees and more refugees. That particular incident in itself was enough for me to conclude that Bhutantimes is not at all happy with the progress of Bhutan. I mean there&#039;s nothing wrong in mentioning about the refugees-weather we like it or not this is the hard facts of today&#039;s bhutan-but bhutantimes literally appears to be the spokeperson of the refugees while completely forgetting their so called fair and balanced policy. While bhutantimes religiously keeps refugees news raging,on the other hand the other news medias  like kuenselonline appears to be treating the word refugee like a taboo.I have never seen any news or articles on refugees on kuenselonline. I think both kuneselonline and bhutantimes should find a middleway in reporting their news,keeping in mind the best intersest of the people and the country. Sorry if offended by this comment-my opinion is mostly based on what I read and know from online news medias like kuenselonline.bt and bhutantimes.com-I&#039;ve been living out of Bhutan for quite some time now.But I&#039;m a concerned Bhutanese citizen who want the best for my country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your excellency,I know this is completely off topic,but I wanted to express here my distaste and concern over how BICMA fined BBS for bringing in an open panel discussion regarding the prepaid taxi service system during which one of the participatents supposedly made some personal attacks on a minister. If this is the case then BICMA should  fine Bhutantimes too because you can see lots of personal attacks and other anti-Bhutan articles freely allowed by Bhutantimes in their website. I don&#8217;t understand why Bhutantime is hell bent on presenting Bhutan the worst way possible to the outside world. One time I heard that Sen. <br />Mccain was visiting Bhutan, since it&#8217;s such an historic visit by one of the important political figures from America, I thought his visit would be featured in front page in all <br />online Bhutanese news medias-but I was sad and disappointed to notice that all I could see on Bhutantimes was news on refugees,refugees and more refugees. That particular incident in itself was enough for me to conclude that Bhutantimes is not at all happy with the progress of Bhutan. I mean there&#8217;s nothing wrong in mentioning about the refugees-weather we like it or not this is the hard facts of today&#8217;s bhutan-but bhutantimes literally appears to be the spokeperson of the refugees while completely forgetting their so called fair and balanced policy. While bhutantimes religiously keeps refugees news raging,on the other hand the other news medias  like kuenselonline appears to be treating the word refugee like a taboo.I have never seen any news or articles on refugees on kuenselonline. I think both kuneselonline and bhutantimes should find a middleway in reporting their news,keeping in mind the best intersest of the people and the country. Sorry if offended by this comment-my opinion is mostly based on what I read and know from online news medias like kuenselonline.bt and bhutantimes.com-I&#8217;ve been living out of Bhutan for quite some time now.But I&#8217;m a concerned Bhutanese citizen who want the best for my country.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-414</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I&#039;ve myself been concerned that most of our monks and nuns are where they are in the first place by no choice of their own but by the choice of their parents, who are in turn compelled to impose it on their children because of many disadvantages they face. Some, of course, believe that one member of the family has to be a monk/nun for family rituals etc. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Concern 1: Are the monastic schools child friendly schools? How are they treated by their teachers? Do they have access to safe drinking water and good sanitation?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Concern 2: Are the monastic learners learning English and Mathematics besides Dzongkha and Buddhist scriptures? After all, even our lamas and rinpoches look for better opportunities outside the country, don&#039;t they?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Concern 3: Can we still claim that we have achieved quality basic education for all, with a portion of our children in monastic schools? Are we certain that our monastic learners have access to quality basic education? If not, how do we close the gap?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Concern 4: In what ways are we developing their individual capability to live dignified/decent lives as adult citizens, within the context of GNH?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I&#8217;ve myself been concerned that most of our monks and nuns are where they are in the first place by no choice of their own but by the choice of their parents, who are in turn compelled to impose it on their children because of many disadvantages they face. Some, of course, believe that one member of the family has to be a monk/nun for family rituals etc. </p>
<p>Concern 1: Are the monastic schools child friendly schools? How are they treated by their teachers? Do they have access to safe drinking water and good sanitation?</p>
<p>Concern 2: Are the monastic learners learning English and Mathematics besides Dzongkha and Buddhist scriptures? After all, even our lamas and rinpoches look for better opportunities outside the country, don&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Concern 3: Can we still claim that we have achieved quality basic education for all, with a portion of our children in monastic schools? Are we certain that our monastic learners have access to quality basic education? If not, how do we close the gap?  </p>
<p>Concern 4: In what ways are we developing their individual capability to live dignified/decent lives as adult citizens, within the context of GNH?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too couldn&#039;t agree with what our Honourable Dhogchog Ghothrip claimed with regard to the sidelining of the monastic body.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sir, did you really looked into the properties that the monastic body has as of now and if all these properties are assessed, the value would be more than the total budget outlay of the government. If I am not wrong, monk body represents as board directors in some large companies as they have a huge stake.And finally, how did the monk body managed to have that huge properties? Is it provided by the govt.? then who is the govt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too couldn&#8217;t agree with what our Honourable Dhogchog Ghothrip claimed with regard to the sidelining of the monastic body.</p>
<p>Sir, did you really looked into the properties that the monastic body has as of now and if all these properties are assessed, the value would be more than the total budget outlay of the government. If I am not wrong, monk body represents as board directors in some large companies as they have a huge stake.And finally, how did the monk body managed to have that huge properties? Is it provided by the govt.? then who is the govt?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/education/2009/education-for-all.html#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding your statement on Monastic education, I couldn&#039;t agree more that monastic education was sidelined in the past but the fact is that the country is trying to include them now and efforts have been made and are being made. Don’t you think its time we focus on the progress first or atleast acknowledge the progress? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;From your blog it appears that as the opposition leader your job is to be a pessimist. When you make your statements are your really considering the reality? Are u aware of the number of schools as opposed to number of monastic schools in bhutan when u are giving allocating these budget figures? For example- “That also works out to more than Nu 60,000 for each of the 157,112 students currently in the education system” – do your seriously believe your estimate here is correct. What about the number of children who will be entering schools as they reach prime age in the next five year years? The budget also takes them into account and not just the number of students currently enrolled. If you consider this not every child is going to have Nu. 60,000. Moreover, there are many children in Bhutan who are still unaccounted for when it comes to education and you are forgetting about them when u make your budget estimate for the 157, 112 students.  At this juncture all children in Bhutan regardless of their monastic or schooling background are not going to get enough resources. But that is not because no efforts have been made from concerned sectors. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rome was not built in a day and our country as well as our new government will not be able to perform miracles across all sectors of the country at once.  It is time that people be supportive of the efforts made. Of course more could be done but there are ways to approach that subject matter rather than simply pointing fingers. It is everyone’s responsibility and your responsibility too Opposition Leader. Rather than simply claiming to still have your Party’s values intact, why don’t you act on it? Given your position there is much more that you can do then blogging. You don’t have to work through the present government, you can directly go to NGOs and offices that are affiliated with all the problems you point out on this website and work with them. If you get the people on your side the government will have to succumb and hopefully act. You seem to be capable of many things and you seem insightful too, it is a pity that you resort to take the “opposition” part of your title too seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding your statement on Monastic education, I couldn&#8217;t agree more that monastic education was sidelined in the past but the fact is that the country is trying to include them now and efforts have been made and are being made. Don’t you think its time we focus on the progress first or atleast acknowledge the progress? </p>
<p>From your blog it appears that as the opposition leader your job is to be a pessimist. When you make your statements are your really considering the reality? Are u aware of the number of schools as opposed to number of monastic schools in bhutan when u are giving allocating these budget figures? For example- “That also works out to more than Nu 60,000 for each of the 157,112 students currently in the education system” – do your seriously believe your estimate here is correct. What about the number of children who will be entering schools as they reach prime age in the next five year years? The budget also takes them into account and not just the number of students currently enrolled. If you consider this not every child is going to have Nu. 60,000. Moreover, there are many children in Bhutan who are still unaccounted for when it comes to education and you are forgetting about them when u make your budget estimate for the 157, 112 students.  At this juncture all children in Bhutan regardless of their monastic or schooling background are not going to get enough resources. But that is not because no efforts have been made from concerned sectors. </p>
<p>Rome was not built in a day and our country as well as our new government will not be able to perform miracles across all sectors of the country at once.  It is time that people be supportive of the efforts made. Of course more could be done but there are ways to approach that subject matter rather than simply pointing fingers. It is everyone’s responsibility and your responsibility too Opposition Leader. Rather than simply claiming to still have your Party’s values intact, why don’t you act on it? Given your position there is much more that you can do then blogging. You don’t have to work through the present government, you can directly go to NGOs and offices that are affiliated with all the problems you point out on this website and work with them. If you get the people on your side the government will have to succumb and hopefully act. You seem to be capable of many things and you seem insightful too, it is a pity that you resort to take the “opposition” part of your title too seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is very true - but as the monk body doesn&#039;t get to vote (which I don&#039;t agree with anyhow) then where is the incentive for a government to invest in them?&lt;br/&gt;As before (and I think this is not totally unfounded), both here and in other countries, where religious institutions used to be the educated ones, being literate and also being essential to everyday life (death, puja, blessing) then there is struggle for power. Once we &#039;no longer need them&#039; to read for us, they get left behind in the education stakes and the new power feels threatened..&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s a shame that so far UNICEF seem to be amongst the main agencies to support education - but still it is only restricted to health. They had plan for english support, but so far nothing has come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is very true &#8211; but as the monk body doesn&#8217;t get to vote (which I don&#8217;t agree with anyhow) then where is the incentive for a government to invest in them?<br />As before (and I think this is not totally unfounded), both here and in other countries, where religious institutions used to be the educated ones, being literate and also being essential to everyday life (death, puja, blessing) then there is struggle for power. Once we &#8216;no longer need them&#8217; to read for us, they get left behind in the education stakes and the new power feels threatened..<br />It&#8217;s a shame that so far UNICEF seem to be amongst the main agencies to support education &#8211; but still it is only restricted to health. They had plan for english support, but so far nothing has come.</p>
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