Pay expectations

We were given the government’s pay revision report today. Finally. And the speaker announced that we would debate it this Monday. Good.

I am happy that the government has decided not to increase the salaries of the prime minister, cabinet ministers and other ranks equivalent to ministers. The pay commission had recommended salary increases of 130% for the PM and 66% for cabinet ministers.

And I’m satisfied, more or less, that the government has decided to increase the salaries of MPs by only 20%. The pay commission had recommended a 100% increase.

But I’m left wondering why the government has decided to increase civil service salaries by only 35%.

For now, I am happy – happy and proud – that our government has decided against hefty pay increases for politicians. Good job.

 

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  1. good job indeed!! i commend you for your stand.next election, im voting for PDP.and everybody i know share my sentiments.we made a mistake this time but we’ve learnt our lesson.keep up the good work.you are the working class hero!!!

  2. sonam jamtsho says:

    as long as the pm doesnt get 130% increase im satisfied.i mean where will he keep all that money?im perplexed.
    35% for us…woohoo!!!

  3. Dear Hon’ble LOO,

    Please fight for atleast a 45% increase for civil servants. We have been ditched by the DPT government…. You are our only hope now….

    But what can you alone do?

    Regards

  4. Opinionated Bhutanese says:

    I think the current pay proposal is far more sensible than the previous one. The opposition members are doing a good job. Congrats!

  5. Civil Servants are a core group that our nation has and yes we may label them to earn more BUT quite frankly no one seem to be working in teh government. I have freinds in every department, every ministry and every where I go to meet these freinds placed in high portfolios dont do any work. Theya re all chating, playing games on computer, gossip mongering or just lazing around for the clock to strike 5 PM.

    However, we also know there are hard working civil servants and for their sake we should FIRE or provide a golden handshake to all those who are not productive and then shrink the civil servant numbers and then work on a good pay package.

    My two cents….

  6. wow….at least this version of pay hike proposal looks reasonable. if it goes through, i am satisfied…..
    great one!

  7. What about unemployment pay?
    What about disabled pay?
    What about senior citizen’s pay?
    What about the homeless?

    It’s about time we thought about these issues. If the government has so much money to throw away, let’s give a small share to the unfortunate bit of our society too.

    I am happy that finally the government has made a sound decision on this matter. However, did the government do something about the private firms? I don’t think thre is any pay revision in the private sector as of yet. Now the Bhutanese population is divided into two halfs. The better paid and the under paid.
    This is a good catalyst to spark off yet another increase in the inflation rate. From my understanding, the house rents in Thimphu are already escalating. Where will the workers for small scale industries like the workshops and sawmills fit in the economy? There aren’t any affordable housing scheme for the low paid.
    Watch this, the small scale industries will vanish from the scene some day. And the government is blabbing so much about encouraging the private sector.

    A balanced economy is what I say we should look for.
    I have a feeling the majority of the urban workers will be economically not viable after the current pay revision has been implemented.

    God Save the poor.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Like many of our democratized citizens of Bhutan, I have also over the time started appreciating our only 2 opposition members especially the OL for all his pragmatic debate and reasoning in the NA sessions. Keep up the good work, people are watching with eyes and listening with ears.

    Well on the pay revisions, this version looks far better than the one proposed by PC. However, I am not very comfortable with the flat increase of 35 % for the civil servants. I feel there has to be some difference between the higher grades and the ones in the lower and middle to narrow the already wide gap. The increase of 61 % for the lowest category of worker could be made 100 % as the increase in terms of real monetary value is too insignificant.

    What I do not understand is the politics of politics, that is, why so many allowances for MPs and then gratutity? Some needs to be slashed out as every one knows the present bunch of MPs and NCs does not deserve such a high salary package because of the mere fact that most got elected merely because of the president.

    Finally, I wish there is a difference of salary between the ministers and PM. PM should at least get around Nu.50,000 more than the ministers.

  9. The earlier pay proposal did not make much sense, its good that the government has decided to further discuss on it.
    In general I think its high time that the government revise the salary of the CS. A good pay system would mean lowered corruption, after all people will always find means to make money the other way if what they get cannot sustain them (and its certainly not the issue of wanting more or greed).
    Its good that the new government is taking notice of people’s concern:)

  10. It appears a sensible compromise has been made and I hope people are happy. Obviously what the pay commission had originally recommended did not bode well for the civil servants and many others. Where was their competency and fairness in the first task they were entrusted to deliver? Instead of putting in place a pay revision that would boost civil servant morale, encourage appropriate equitable distribution of income and matching pay for effort, it seems like they were hellbent on paying back the people who put them in the commission. Shame on you.

  11. Anonymous says:

    kudos to our opposition leader…

  12. Anonymous says:

    It would have made more sense if the raise was made flat out numerically…Nu. XXXX…instead of putting the percentage symbol behind (%) which makes everything tricky.

    This is because price of goods is not based on percentage even in a democratic society.

    Flat increase will also have maintained the needed differences between positions instead of “magnifying” the differences.

    It is good for the ESPs, they are really facing hard time.

    Allowances in any form should have been done away with…all jobs should have good salary..no job should be created which may need an allowance. All justifications for allowances are superficial.

  13. Anonymous says:

    It is indeed a good news, on pay rise but we would like to know the measures the govt, is going to take on the issues like increase of houst rents and other essintial commodities, mearly, resquesting the public not to increase would not solve the problem later. i think the govt. should table some measure along with pay rise. Althought, nothing is enough but what ever is increase if it is just a matter change of pockets; than the richer will stay rich and poorer will stay poor.. hope i make some sense.

  14. Anonymous says:

    It is the government who decided the pay commission and not the opposition. I can’t understand why people give credit to the ol regardless of the nature of gthe decision. A responsible government has to see that raising the pay package beyond what the exchequer can afford will leave the country in a mess. It is easy for him to say we need to give this and that as he is not accountable for any thing in the event of a mess-up. Wake up! All you blind PPD supporters.

  15. Anonymous says:

    Congrats OP.. Thank you so much for standing up to fight.. you fought for us although you did need to sacrifice your own pay Raise. I think the one guy who wrote about pdp supporters being blind did not watch the live panel discussion. He should have watched to see how our OP fought when the other two are just so..so. well guess he was busy going through the blogs… Keep it up acho massive

  16. Anonymous says:

    Yet again, we talk about our rights. I hope the pay hike will make everybody work equally hard and pay the services they are compensated for. Work ethics is generally so poor in our system, I even wonder if every single individual deserves the hike. I hope they realize their duty now.

  17. Anonymous says:

    All said and done, a good job indeed.

    But its still vague as to why the complete difference between the Pay Commission’s report and the government report. I see a political motive attached there….wat say u? i can justify, its cool with no revision for the PM, Cabinet and alike rank holders but not alright to keep the 20% for MPs as this 20%is not justifiable to be keptoff shade of debate given the fact that the MPs are being given several other benefits which were not worked out during the Parliamentary Entitlement Act of 2008. Nothing againist our honorable MPs but this is not a sane thing coz one may announce the 61% for the elementary service group or the 45%local leaders but do u have any idea that the whole increment for this group is less that what a single category of allowance for the MPs.

    I am not settling scores here and nor am i a lost candidate, i am just trying to be political analyst, not really but concerned if this continues.
    the 35% for civil servants is fair enough…we are talking about a lot of them and the needy ones have been taken care of.

    Long way to go friends ..
    Enjoy this forum…

  18. Why aren’t all the details of what ministers get spelt out like the MP’s? I mean you have to include Prado worth 21 lakhs, security 2 guys (their pay) Secretary 2 nos.? Driver’s pay including his DA etc. etc. and all the stationary etc. etc. We know that a minister’s pay is still 70% higher to MP’s despite the hike.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Good job and as an opposition Leader in the Parliament you are doing a great job.it is being liked by everyone. On the pay hike i would like add more. i.e Ministers do not get pay hike. it is okay and good. MPs do get 20% pay hike. it is an example of a good Government. But why the allowances and the benefits of the MPs were revised? Mps will now get 7000 as fuel and maintainence,6000 as allowance for driver, 2000 as mobile voucher which in total is 15,000. That is a months salary for 3 Elementary Service Personnel (ESP). Before the elections they were debating on how they will serve the Nation and People, but after the election they were debating on what they will get and not. But let us see on Monday, 19th Jan 2009. Pray.!!!!!!

  20. Anonymous says:

    It’s my personal view to express that the pay should revise by keeping the following view points:

    1. Important of work responsibility.
    2. Gross National Happiness.
    3. Justice and Equity.
    4. Income Potentiality of Country

    The above three points can be achieved only if pay revised is done in following scheme.

    a. The pay difference between each position should be maintained as 10%, 15 % and 20% (not as high as 30% proposed earlier) as the responsibility of job will be of not that difference. Such differences have to be maintained to keep the work importance and to avoid contradiction of pay revision fixation in future. In such case the future pay revision can be done by flat percentage revision as that of today.
    b. The payment of lowest working categories should not be less the Nu. 5000.00
    c. At present the pay revision should not be 35% flat, but have to vary as to achieve the point a. and b. accordingly.
    Last but not least, the pay revision effective date should be July 2008 as the fical years begins w.e.f july and more over its Prime Ministers word spoken on one of the Media.

  21. Anonymous says:

    It’s my personal view to express that the pay should revise by keeping the following view points:

    1. Important of work responsibility.
    2. Gross National Happiness.
    3. Justice and Equity.
    4. Income Potentiality of Country

    The above three points can be achieved only if pay revised is done in following scheme.

    a. The pay difference between each position should be maintained as 10%, 15 % and 20% (not as high as 30% proposed earlier) as the responsibility of job will be of not that difference. Such differences have to be maintained to keep the work importance and to avoid contradiction of pay revision fixation in future. In such case the future pay revision can be done by flat percentage revision as that of today.
    b. The payment of lowest working categories should not be less the Nu. 5000.00
    c. At present the pay revision should not be 35% flat, but have to vary as to achieve the point a. and b. accordingly.
    Last but not least, the pay revision effective date should be July 2008 as the fical years begins w.e.f july and more over its Prime Ministers word spoken on one of the Media.

  22. Remember Ministers are hike- ing up allowance from 1 lakh to 2 lakhs. MP's neither are they with Ministers as MP's (all are members of parliament) nor with civil service 35%. MP's pay hike is only 6 G a month where as Ministers increase is almost 10G a month by taking increase of discreation allowance.
    Despite the MP's 20% hike the pay of MP's is not reaching half of Ministers.
    It should be 80% 65& 35% 20% and nil BOTTOM up.

  23. Anonymous says:

    fully agreeable to all the comments posted here and so is the OL doing a Great Job.

    Good Luck OL with the lone task in the NA on Monday if at all u have issues to raise…( which of course comes inline with the thoughts and likings of the geenral public)

    Keep up the good job and Cheers!!!!

  24. Anonymous says:

    Can’t you even understand that the government has made the decision on the pay rise many days before the TV debate? What the OL said during the debate had no relevance to the pay revision. In fact what he says will carry no clout if the government is insensitive to public opinion. Gon on – keep up the tirade!!!

  25. We now clearly understand that DPT can not fulfill the aspirations of our government. They have already failed in many instances and did shy away from the promises they made to people.

    They are taking undue advantage of their majority in the parliament. They were chosen to run the government and not to fool the people and the government. We are definitely not HAPPY with DPT.

    The pay hike, of course 35%, is sensible given the resource constraint. But, DPT made false promises by saying there will be substantial hike to the Civil servants. DPT won, because of Civil servants, they got to remember that…..

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