Comments on: What’s decentralised http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html Life and Politics in Democratic Bhutan Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:25:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-358 Anonymous Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:23:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-358 wow!!! i really appreciate 4r ur good research work..its <br/>amazing..opp leader should be stronger than what u are right now..any way great effort u r puttin in..thanx wow!!! i really appreciate 4r ur good research work..its
amazing..opp leader should be stronger than what u are right now..any way great effort u r puttin in..thanx

]]> By: GandhiGiri http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-289 GandhiGiri Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:17:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-289 Opp leader!, that's an excellent analysis and comparision. U as one of the beneficiaries of the apparently unreasonable salary, excessive perks and previleges, I have a simple and straight question for you- did you even make a slightest attempt to refuse what you have been given? Ur writing seems to be honest and genuine,and it can easily convince any ordinary person so passionately that will easily make most not see and compare what you say and what you do. Do you also equally practise what you preach?<br/>Right now you are quietly taking the salary, pocketting the house rent, since you are leavin in your own house (but that is all right, since it is your entitlement),driving abrand new prado without a single penny contribution to the purchase of it (as oppose to most of the MP who have spent half the amount from their own pocket), which most probably will become your own after 5 years and many other unlimited list of perks and previleges.<br/>If you refuse to accept these lavish payments and facillities and advocate that others of your level (the ministers, speaker, chairman of NC)do the same. then you are a man of honour, a man of principle. The others (MPs, Secretaries, directors, civil servants) will, I am sure, follow suite. Just one move from your side to give genuine meaning to what you preach is enough I will regard you as unparalleled leader, consider you as the most honest living person. othewise you have just been successful in politicizing the issue, appear to look good yourself at the cost of others, convince simple ordinary people that you are realy honest and prnciplled.<br/>So act as you speak, practice as you preach. You can fool one people one time but you can't fool all the people all the time. Opp leader!, that’s an excellent analysis and comparision. U as one of the beneficiaries of the apparently unreasonable salary, excessive perks and previleges, I have a simple and straight question for you- did you even make a slightest attempt to refuse what you have been given? Ur writing seems to be honest and genuine,and it can easily convince any ordinary person so passionately that will easily make most not see and compare what you say and what you do. Do you also equally practise what you preach?
Right now you are quietly taking the salary, pocketting the house rent, since you are leavin in your own house (but that is all right, since it is your entitlement),driving abrand new prado without a single penny contribution to the purchase of it (as oppose to most of the MP who have spent half the amount from their own pocket), which most probably will become your own after 5 years and many other unlimited list of perks and previleges.
If you refuse to accept these lavish payments and facillities and advocate that others of your level (the ministers, speaker, chairman of NC)do the same. then you are a man of honour, a man of principle. The others (MPs, Secretaries, directors, civil servants) will, I am sure, follow suite. Just one move from your side to give genuine meaning to what you preach is enough I will regard you as unparalleled leader, consider you as the most honest living person. othewise you have just been successful in politicizing the issue, appear to look good yourself at the cost of others, convince simple ordinary people that you are realy honest and prnciplled.
So act as you speak, practice as you preach. You can fool one people one time but you can’t fool all the people all the time.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-190 Anonymous Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:44:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-190 It seems to me from the estimates you have made, It is quite sad to know that while our Hon'ble Ministers enjoy a major chunk of the budget, the rural people are left out from the entire portion. Does this mean DPT's priorities for developmental activities, so talked about during their campaigns, meant merely to acquire this amount of salary? If they are dedicating their service to Bhutan, I think salary would be the last thing on their mind. By this, I don't mean to say that they should not be paid, but substantial amount goes to their pocket is not justifiable when our rural developments and geogs are lagging behind. <br/><br/>Second, as per my understanding, the salary hike is for Civil Service, does this include Political entities the MPs and Ministers? The pay package for them is just a half year old and if every half a year we hike their pay package, I think, forget about rural developments and other promised agendas, I can see the future of Bhutan not very promising...<br/><br/>Third, this is for the Hon'ble OL. When you already know the impact of the pay hike especially pay hike for MPs, what are you going to do about it? It seems to me from the estimates you have made, It is quite sad to know that while our Hon’ble Ministers enjoy a major chunk of the budget, the rural people are left out from the entire portion. Does this mean DPT’s priorities for developmental activities, so talked about during their campaigns, meant merely to acquire this amount of salary? If they are dedicating their service to Bhutan, I think salary would be the last thing on their mind. By this, I don’t mean to say that they should not be paid, but substantial amount goes to their pocket is not justifiable when our rural developments and geogs are lagging behind.

Second, as per my understanding, the salary hike is for Civil Service, does this include Political entities the MPs and Ministers? The pay package for them is just a half year old and if every half a year we hike their pay package, I think, forget about rural developments and other promised agendas, I can see the future of Bhutan not very promising…

Third, this is for the Hon’ble OL. When you already know the impact of the pay hike especially pay hike for MPs, what are you going to do about it?

]]> By: WangDrugay http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-184 WangDrugay Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:38:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-184 Great job OL! This is the type of leader we need in our country. 10 such guys and I think Bhutan can be a Japan. I think instead of inviting Sangay Ngidup back as your party leader, your party should consider you as the party's leader becoz I think you can make an excellent Prime Minister, perhaps far, far better than Ata Jigme Thinley.<br/><br/>So much said, keep doing your good job. Doing good and sincere jobs does not always fetch the medals in our country but in the end you will enjoy that peace of mind. Great job OL! This is the type of leader we need in our country. 10 such guys and I think Bhutan can be a Japan. I think instead of inviting Sangay Ngidup back as your party leader, your party should consider you as the party’s leader becoz I think you can make an excellent Prime Minister, perhaps far, far better than Ata Jigme Thinley.

So much said, keep doing your good job. Doing good and sincere jobs does not always fetch the medals in our country but in the end you will enjoy that peace of mind.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-162 Anonymous Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:14:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-162 I think the pay hike proposal is a complex thing to plan for, since there are many things that need to be taken into consideration.<br/>The parlementarians need a higher salary to reward them for their effort and also to curb corruption. Their potentially 5 year short tenures should also be considered. <br/>On the other hand when is enough really enough? This is simply a flaw in human nature. Maybe lower pay can encourage MPs to perform better in order to win the next elections, if the perks and honour of the position isnt enough on its own. The gaps in the pay is also a cause of concern, with the gap between rural and urban society as large as it already is, do we need to create a bigger gap in the government? Corruption at the lower echelons should be taken into consideration here also since its only a difference in scale. I think the pay hike proposal is a complex thing to plan for, since there are many things that need to be taken into consideration.
The parlementarians need a higher salary to reward them for their effort and also to curb corruption. Their potentially 5 year short tenures should also be considered.
On the other hand when is enough really enough? This is simply a flaw in human nature. Maybe lower pay can encourage MPs to perform better in order to win the next elections, if the perks and honour of the position isnt enough on its own. The gaps in the pay is also a cause of concern, with the gap between rural and urban society as large as it already is, do we need to create a bigger gap in the government? Corruption at the lower echelons should be taken into consideration here also since its only a difference in scale.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-143 Anonymous Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:52:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-143 that sure is a huge amount and could perhaps be used towards many projects that we hold on stand due to lack of fund. But there's always a justification..... ministers have more work and as such higher risk and therefore should get paid higher. just like when prados were bought for the Lyonpo aums a few years ago........ <br/>and of course it is also a matter of the pride of our country ..... Minister's should live a Minister's life style... i have heard it .... <br/>many promises were made and many supporters cast thier votes too... i won't be surprised if these very people are complaining now... <br/><br/>However, i wished there were more focus on increasing the salary of lower paid people though and a bigger demand in professionlism from these people thereafter........<br/>On the other hand if Minister's justify the salary and the perks ... i guess we can't stop it. that sure is a huge amount and could perhaps be used towards many projects that we hold on stand due to lack of fund. But there’s always a justification….. ministers have more work and as such higher risk and therefore should get paid higher. just like when prados were bought for the Lyonpo aums a few years ago……..
and of course it is also a matter of the pride of our country ….. Minister’s should live a Minister’s life style… i have heard it ….
many promises were made and many supporters cast thier votes too… i won’t be surprised if these very people are complaining now…

However, i wished there were more focus on increasing the salary of lower paid people though and a bigger demand in professionlism from these people thereafter……..
On the other hand if Minister’s justify the salary and the perks … i guess we can’t stop it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-141 Anonymous Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:08:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-141 woahh...thats a lot of money, i really didn't realize this. Thanks for this precise and useful information. woahh…thats a lot of money, i really didn’t realize this. Thanks for this precise and useful information.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-140 Anonymous Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:04:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-140 My views would be, take as much as you can. But in the process learn to share and give what you are actually here for. If your services to us people and the country will cost you this much, and if there's a means, take so...but deliver...deliver as you take, deliver as you should, deliver as you deem yourselves capable of...deliver as you promised. The world is watching...everyone is. My views would be, take as much as you can. But in the process learn to share and give what you are actually here for. If your services to us people and the country will cost you this much, and if there’s a means, take so…but deliver…deliver as you take, deliver as you should, deliver as you deem yourselves capable of…deliver as you promised. The world is watching…everyone is.

]]> By: Opinionated Bhutanese http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-138 Opinionated Bhutanese Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:01:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-138 This is good reporting, clear amd precise, just the way I like...Great This is good reporting, clear amd precise, just the way I like…Great

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/government/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-133 Anonymous Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:02:00 +0000 http://www.tsheringtobgay.com/general/2009/whats-decentralised.html#comment-133 That's a lot scary!!! Thanks for bringing it up with exact numbers. Well, I couldn't help, but laugh my frustrated lungs out when I went through bhutantimes forum and came across the abbreviation of JYT(PM) which it claims to stand for Jigme Yargye Tshogdu. Indeed, that is how it looks like!<br/>Decision makers, I am worried about farmers who would be the worst hit by this pay hike. As they don't earn or get any pay hikes, but in the name of pay hikes, shopkeepers will raise the prizes for commodities and farmers will be starving! But must keep reminded, they have voted the decision makers hoping for good. That’s a lot scary!!! Thanks for bringing it up with exact numbers. Well, I couldn’t help, but laugh my frustrated lungs out when I went through bhutantimes forum and came across the abbreviation of JYT(PM) which it claims to stand for Jigme Yargye Tshogdu. Indeed, that is how it looks like!
Decision makers, I am worried about farmers who would be the worst hit by this pay hike. As they don’t earn or get any pay hikes, but in the name of pay hikes, shopkeepers will raise the prizes for commodities and farmers will be starving! But must keep reminded, they have voted the decision makers hoping for good.

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